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Google “outraged” by government snooping

20131031-085609.jpgThe National Security Agency’s director flatly denied a Washington Post report Wednesday that the NSA secretly broke into communications links to Google and Yahoo servers overseas.

Army Gen. Keith Alexander, the NSA director, pushed back against the report that cites leaked classified documents, saying the agency does not illegally access the servers of Internet companies.

“The servers and everything we do with those, those companies work with us. They are compelled to work with us. This isn’t something the court just said, ‘Would you please work with them and throw data over it.’ This is compelled. And this is specific requirements that come from a court order,” Alexander said at a cybersecurity conference in Washington.

“This is not NSA breaking into any databases. It would be illegal for us to do that. So, I don’t know what the report is. But I can tell you factually we do not have access to Google servers, Yahoo servers. We go through a court order.”

The Washington Post report is the latest in a series of allegations that stem from disclosures given to news organizations by Edward Snowden, the former NSA contractor who describes himself as a whistle-blower.

The operation is code named MUSCULAR, and it is operated jointly by the NSA and its UK counterpart, the Government Communications Headquarters, The Washington Post reported, citing the documents.

According to The Post, the NSA and the Government Communications Headquarters are copying data flowing through fiber-optic network cables overseas, and the NSA sends millions of the records from Yahoo and Google to data warehouses at its headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland.

There is no oversight of the NSA operation because it is occurring overseas out of the reach of the court, according to the report.

But Alexander said that was not true, and that a court order must be issued to the Internet companies.

“We issue that court order to them through the FBI. And it’s not millions, it’s thousands that are done. And it’s almost all against terrorism and other things like that,” he said. “It has nothing to do with U.S. persons.”

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/30/us/nsa-google-yahoo/index.html

Not having access to the servers does not mean much. They’d still have full access to the data if they tap the fiber feeding the servers. Alex Jones is where I first heard years before Snowden that Google was in a secret partnership with the NSA. Just as with AT&T there could be a secret place where the PRISM tap happens. Few at Google would even need to be aware of it. The fiber might run through some important person’s office and that’s where the tap might be.

Perhaps knowing what millions of you search for on google and type in gmail email is going to allow Obama–who says he is the ultimate consumer of US intelligence–to protect the US from terrorists… And other things like that. Things like terrorists. Which would be … what?

4 comments on “Google “outraged” by government snooping

  1. Cheng
    October 31, 2013

    Well, maybe weapon, drugs or people trafficking. Perhaps for listening for internal unrest within allied states that may destabilise economies or create enemies. How about tracking paedophile rings?

    Or perhaps they ARE just trying to read the inane emails we send to each other!

    • Xeno
      October 31, 2013

      What few consider is the spooky ability to tamper with the data to make it appear that anyone is guilty of any crime. Why would they do that? To steal money. For kicks. Revenge. Who knows? Who cares?

      The other problem is that they’d also know all trade secrets of all companies, who secretly has a deadly cancer, who cheated on a spouse twenty years ago, who owns a gun, who has how much money, who jaywalks, smokes pot, etc.

      They’ve created an atomic bomb of information that can destroy the country when it falls into the wrong hands. And it will, eventually.

      If I see you’ve worked hard your entire life and are about to retire and I want to take your money, how are you going to dispute my secret evidence that you killed and ate 25 babies? I have everything, even video footage of you doing it (really from someone who looks like you who made a home horror movie that no one ever saw), plus your receipts for the friggin hot sauce! You monster!

      They could also threaten a few witnesses into testifying against you. Great crime fighting tool.

      • Cheng
        October 31, 2013

        Hey Xeno, I like kids, but I couldn’t eat 25 of them…… drum roll – cymbal!!

        The problem is, all those things are already happening. (Not the baby eating thing). Companies have already stockpiled more info on everyone than they can ever possibly usefully use. Criminals have already taken people’s data for wrongdoing. It’s all there waiting to come crashing down. Why is there such a problem with having your country’s law enforcement agencies have access to it?
        There will undoubtedly be some shitesters among them, but on the whole, they should be slightly more trustworthy than your average thief.

        I hold a bit of a candle for the screen goddess who is Sandra Bullock, but her movie “The Net”, whilst probably possible, just seems so unlikely as to be not worth worrying about.

  2. Parlor of Horror
    October 31, 2013

    Google? Who has every road, highway and inch of the US mapped and watched by satelites is outrage by The US Gov? lol

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