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Climate Change Effect: Big Brother Spy Cameras To Prevent Uninsured Drivers From Getting Gas

Posted by Anonymous on March 15, 2012

Government officials are rolling out a hi-tech automatic number plate recognition (ANPR) cameras to crack down on millions of motorists who drive without insurance.

To add to the already out of control civilian camera spying system running 1% of the national debt while failing to prevent crime and new terror laws that feed all private messages to the government the UK is now rolling out a high-tech set of camera’s with license plate sensing technology.

The justification for the new camera’s is to prevent uninsured motorists from being able to refill their gas tanks and cut down on the millions of dollars of revenue the nation loses due to uninsured motorists.

The system will also prevent “untaxed” from being able to refill as well and just as with any program the government will surely expand it to find new applications for it. …

Downing Street officials hope the hi-tech system will crack down on the 1.4million motorists who drive without insurance

Cameras at petrol stations will automatically stop uninsured or untaxed vehicles from being filled with fuel, under new government plans.

Downing Street officials hope the hi-tech system will crack down on the 1.4million motorists who drive without insurance.

Automatic number plate recognition (ANPR) cameras are already fitted in thousands of petrol station forecourts.

Drivers can only fill their cars with fuel once the camera has captured and logged the vehicle’s number plate.

Currently the system is designed to deter motorists from driving off without paying for petrol.

But under the new plans, the cameras will automatically cross-refererence with the DVLA’s huge database.

When a car is flagged as being uninsured or untaxed, the system will prevent the fuel pump being used on that vehicle. …

One in 25 drivers in the UK do not have insurance …

via Big Brother Spy Cameras To Prevent Uninsured Drivers From Getting Gas | the Mirror

My god. What’s next? They could use the cameras that read your license plate to determine where you live, and if you are uninsured, they could have a special team sent to your house to forcibly take blood or organs to pay for the car insurance.

What is to blame for this? A genetic defect that causes control freakism in the UK? This time, I blame global climate change which is going to freeze the UK (see “BRITAIN is set to suffer a mini ice age that could last for decades and bring with it a series of bitterly cold winters.”)

RSA Insurance – owner of the More Than brand – has reported a 14% drop in annual profits as snow  ion the UK and floods and typhoons overseas pushed up claims more than £255 million than expected levels.In the UK, severe cold weather led to thousands of burst pipe claims adding up to  £110 million more than expected in the last to months of 2010 alone. – link

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9 Responses to “Climate Change Effect: Big Brother Spy Cameras To Prevent Uninsured Drivers From Getting Gas”

  1. kevin said

    It’s not to cut down on spending, it’s to gain revenue through contracts with the towing companies who’ll be making a mint just loitering around gas stations. It’s the same philosophy as the “drunk checkpoints” they use here in California. The police make crazy money sharing the fees with the toying companies for impounded cars.

  2. Cheng said

    I’m guessing you’ve never been in an accident with an uninsured driver. The salt gets rubbed into the wound slightly, when you get the bill for repairing your own vehicle and paying for your convalescence time off work. This is assuming of course, your estate isn’t paying for your funeral.

    • Xeno said

      Good point Cheng. Even with both parties having insurance, however, the other person’s insurance company can deny liability (even if you get rear ended and are clearly not at fault!) and you are still stuck paying. My rant on this is more about the (ab)use of technology. We require proof of insurance for registration renewal and any time you are stopped in CA, you can be asked for proof of insurance. Does that not work in the UK?

      When Must You Show Proof of Insurance?

      The Legislature passed a law requiring motorists to produce proof of insurance before the DMV renews the vehicle registration. The new legislation also requires motorists to display proof of insurance when they are stopped by a police officer for traffic violations. Drivers who can’t do so may be subject to fines and other penalties. – link

      • Cheng said

        Yes, of course there is always the legal wrangle with insurance. The tight b’stards never want to pay, but if the law is on your side, usually they have to in the end. A car is only registered when it changes ownership in the UK. We have the ‘much loved’ Road fund licence which has to be renewed every year, and proof of insurance is needed then. However, generally those without insurance don’t bother with the road tax either. When they are stopped, all this is checked, but how many times have you been stopped in the past 10 years say? I haven’t been stopped for decades and not had an accident since 1981. Think of the money I could have saved.The main scam in the UK is to buy insurance on a pay monthly deal. The dodgers pay for the first month, get a certificate, then cancel the insurance. It is getting much harder to avoid detection with number plate recognition software, and personally, I’m all for it.
        I think car starters should be intelocked with finger print, breath test, insurance and tax swipe cards. You might need to get up 15mins earlier to get the car started before going to work though. :)

      • Xeno said

        We have little stickers on our license plates. The color changes once a year. To get one, you need proof of insurance, once per year. If your sticker is the wrong color, a cop can pull you over for that. If you cancel, the insurance company should have to report your lack of coverage to the DMV. If you don’t get new insurance within 15 days, they push a button and your car won’t start, or if you have a Prius, it accelerates out of control. Are there more cheap sneaky bastages in the UK than the US?

  3. kevin said

    Yeah I lived in Arizona for 6 years, accidents with uninsured drivers are a way of life down there. I’m going to assume with that example you are also fine with the way the US treats air travelers for your protection and convenience? Remember the devil doesn’t introduce himself face to face, he walks up alongside you pretending to be your friend.

  4. Ann said

    According to Insurance Research Council in the USA (1-29-09, Economic Downturn May Push Percentage of Uninsured Motorists to All-Time High, David Corum) “In 2007, the five states with the highest uninsured driver estimates were New Mexico (29 percent), Mississippi (28 percent), Alabama (26 percent), Oklahoma (24 percent), and Florida (23 percent). The five states with the lowest uninsured driver estimates were Massachusetts (1 percent), Maine (4 percent), North Dakota (5 percent), New York (5 percent), and Vermont (6 percent).” In 2009, Corum writes (4-21-11, Recession Marked by Bump in Uninsured Motorists) “the five states with the highest uninsured driver estimates were Mississippi (28 percent), New Mexico (26 percent), Tennessee (24 percent), Oklahoma (24 percent), and Florida (24 percent). The five states with the lowest uninsured driver estimates were Massachusetts (4.5 percent), Maine (4.5 percent), New York (5 percent), Pennsylvania (7 percent), and Vermont (7 percent).”

    In the UK? The Daily Mail (12 September 2011, Ray Massey) has an article entitled “The roads where 30% of drivers do not have insurance… and they’re costing you £30 on your premium”

  5. stanukraine said

    Xeno, that’s an interesting question with probably a complicated answer. Some of the figures listed in the above comment may indicate a trend during economic hard times, that is, the number of uninsured drivers may increase. If that’s the case, then the amount drivers pay for insurance may be a (major?) factor.

    Trying to find the answer to your question one can’t help run across articles that are slanted (bias) toward the multi-billon dollar auto insurance industry. And, a wealthy business it is! According Fortune Magazine(‘s 500) State Farm (the “good neighbor” insurance firm) increased its profits by $1 billion in 2010 (in one year!) with its 81 million policies, even during the recession “…, when fewer people could afford auto and homeowners policies.”

    According to an article entitled “Michigan auto insurance industry ‘highly profitable,’ according to former insurance commissioner” ( 11-10-11), of the 3 leading auto insurers (State Farm, Allstate, AAA) in the state of Michigan AAA doubled its profits in 5 years, from $50.9 mill in 2002 to $104.2 mill in 2006 in that state alone. The article adds that “This comes as no surprise … Michigan is one of the only states in the entire country that does not have an insurance commissioner with the authority to regulate insurance company profits.”

    What state do you suppose has the highest rates?

    Yeap, you guessed it. Tom Barlow (Daily Finance, 3-14-11, “Most Expensive, Cheapest States for Car Insurance”) lists the information from a survey that “averaged coverages from six providers per state for a 40-year-old driver with a 12-mile commute to work. [The quotes were for a yearly policy with $100,000 coverage for a single person, $300,000 for all injured and $50,000 for property damage.”] And, in Michigan the coverage is most expensive at $2, 541.

    John Curran (7-1-11, “State Laws Make a Big Difference in Car Insurance Rates” http://www.quotelab) writes the difference in car insurance rates between two states “can be as high as $1,546 even for the same car, driving habits and history.” He also acknowledges that Vermont, Maine and Wisconsin have the least expensive car insurance policies. However, he says it’s because of “the number of rural roads and lower-speed driving. Car insurance companies value lower speeds because they reduce accidents,” he writes.

    But, an article in USA Today (“Roads are safer in urban areas,” 1-25-11) Larry Copeland says, “The safest places to drive in the USA are Washington, D.C., and Massachusetts. Among the most dangerous: Montana, Wyoming, Louisiana and Mississippi.” The reason being urban roads are safer than rural roads. Copeland also wrote an article entitled, “More motorists die on rural roads” (USA Today, 10-7-2009).

    In the same above mentioned article, John Curran also writes that tornadoes in Oklahoma and hurricanes in Florida are other factors for their higher insurance rates those states. Yet, while the auto insurance rates in Oklahoma are 3rd highest in the country ($2,197 – according to the list in Tom Barlow’s article), in Kansas, which has a history of tornadoes just as bad if not worse than Oklahoma, is 32nd ($1,461 – according to Tom Barlow’s survey results).

    Xeno, you asked about Massachusetts? A report by J. Robert Hunter, “State Automobile Insurance Regulation: a national quality assessment and in-depth review of California’s uniquely effective regulatory system,” (2008) lists Massachusetts alone in a category by itself has having the most stringent auto insurance regulatory system in the US. Apparently some large firms don’t even do business in that state. At one site, a person asked, “Allstate, Statefarm, and independent [sic] all don’t offer car insurance in Massachusetts. Does someone know why this is?” There were a lot of responses about not being able to do business there, meaning it’s not profitable.

    States with the lowest estimated % of uninsured drivers in 2007 and 2009 – followed the rank according to the survey in Barlow’s article [and the median household income]

    Massachusetts (1% in 2007, increased to 4.5% in 2009) – 35th $1,328 [6th out of 50 household income]

    Maine (4% in 2007 increased slightly to 4.5 % in 2009) – 49th $1,126 [31st out of 50 household income]

    North Dakota (5% in 2007, not listed in 2009) – 11th $1,794 [27th out of 50 household income]

    New York (5% both years) – 21st $1,627 [15th out of 50 household income]

    Vermont (6% in 2007, increased to 7% in 2009) – last (51st) $995 [20th out of 50 household income]

    Pennsylvania (not listed in 2007, had 7% in 2009) – 31st $1,468 [22nd out of 50 household income]

    States with the highest estimated % of uninsured driver in 2007 and 2009 – followed by their rank according to Barlow’s article [median household income in that state]

    New Mexico (29% in 2007, decreased to 26% in 2009) – 8th $1,896 [40th out of 50 household income]

    Mississippi (28% both years) – – 7th $1,896 [50th out of 50, lowest household income in the USA]

    Alabama (26% in 2007, not listed in 2009) – 37th $1,306 [46th out of 50 household income]

    Oklahoma (24% both years) – 3rd $2,197 [45th out of 50 household income]

    Florida (23% in 2007, increased to 24% in 2009) – 29th $1,476 [38th out of 50 household income]

    Tennessee (not listed in 2007, 24% in 2009) [44th out of 50 household income]

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